I been here before the whole iphone stuff started, been a founder of the dev team, first generation dev, first time iphone unlcoker etc. and somehow one of the figures who started this hacking hype even.
But I been before with OSx86 adn other projects. What can I tell? Communitys of this size always evolute in the one or another direction. Every project has its community if its just a little bit successful and the consist of people, form everywhere, with diffrent social and cultural backgroudns etc.. Everyone is diffrent and liek in real life, you can never expect, sadly, a total unity.
Troubles and drama happen. It’s just in the nature of people that it does. It cannot be stopped, I tried and sometimes even caused new drama while trying.
I.e. take the split geohot made from the dev team. Infact I had the pleasuring task to kick him out on a vote from others after he published our research as his own in his manifest. He is everything but not a team player, foudn new people and made hismelf a name. His goal and character were diffrent, rivalship happened and see … split, drama and hate.
Another example, see the current generation of dev team. Most of them joined the scene as elite team with zibri, which I had the pleasure to ban from IRC and who started drama we are so closed. After that he founded elite team, stoel their work and made a lot of money on their back. People from Elite team united back in dev team and are now what I would call the second generation.
New people come and leave. It’s a social thing, and problems and drama are a fixed constant in social live. You cannot united a that big community, it will never work as one. But competition also causes varity and a bit of motivation even, not the worst thing to have sometimes.
-Sam [via hackint0sh]
Forums are also a great way of communication, in this case one of the founders of it all himself, Sam, had a response to the last post which I have posted above. The truth behind his argument is always going to be true. Noone will every unite completely together nor will they be one. But this community is in need of a tool that can work across all platforms and all set ups and the real question is when will someone step forward from one team and say hey let me directly help you with this entire thing so that we can ..unlock 5.11 or jailbreak this or fix that.. Yes, do NOT get me wrong there is a lot of supporting each other in this community and it is something awesome so why cannot we just take it that one step future and bond a little.
I believe the reason that some have started doing the dev is lost, we are at an era in this community where “anyone can make a jailbreak” haven’t you noticed this? From legit pwnagetool and redsn0w to the unseen greenp0isen and very questionable sn0wbreeze some of these tools are starting to get ridiculous, and if you read what the dev-team has said about them, they could just mess up someone who wants to unlock in the future’s chances of doing so. In Cydia we are also at a point where designers/coders are trying to reinvent the wheel, and I do believe that PogoPlank did that, but when categories is being made two more times after such and cover flow is being adapted in ways that copy other’s concepts you want to know how original some are trying to be. The iPhone app/modification developers have been doing an amazing job, some are choosing to make a few bucks between apps -which is respectable, they put so much work into such ‘products’ that they deserve the right to make some money. But if you remember back in 2.0 when others wanted to make money, they simply made the switch and conformed to Apple’s rules.
I feel like a lot I will be posting on this blog will be taken wrong and so I’d like to take a second to clarify. I am one who is part of the community, very active in fact. I know most of you and we have a strong relationship. I have little to no disrespect for you nor the things you are doing, but in fact believe what you are doing is greatly helping this community and you deserve all the thanks you sometimes do not receive.
Isn’t it amazing how sometimes, you can think “hey, its … let me ask him a quick question” and especially when its someone who is a big part of this community the pain that it takes to communicate with such a person. And then sometimes you even get a chance to talk to such person but they are not exactly the nicest people in the word. (I’m not going into that one- some of you guys really have no respect for your followers) Yet, one of the dev-team’s most active people is MuscleNerd, he I will say is a great guy and I’d like to thank him for all the help he has given to me and others in the past (yes, CPICH is also helpful and posixninja and more- You are not forgotten). It seems to me that the community especially in OSX86 has forgotten that the point of the channel is to help the dev-team, who cannot always help others, to actually help and guide others. Yet, you just complain that theres too many noobs in the channel and everyone is just annoying. Yes maybe thats true but at what point do you actually stop and help them, when they have a problem you feel like dealing with? Someone needs to come out with a jailbreak method or guide or addon that can walk newb users through it, so you can cut down on wasted time. Instead of just complaining. Saurik’s IRC channel is full of noobs but the people in there are simply there to help. The iPhone channel in EFNet is one of particular interest to me since the users are pretty much always just messing around and less then willing to help, except if you come when a user is bored or willing..
The community can be stronger then it is now.
Also does anyone know what happen to planetbeing, xpwn seems to be lost without him, hopefully all is good with him, I know he doesn’t leave for work randomly be it seems he has been gone longer then usual. And for that matter what happen to Sleepers, I guess without BigBoss it slowly died, I heard david actually gave it away, guess everyone must die sometime. Bye Geohot, see yea later.
I will admit, the challenges over twitter to help get stuff done and sometimes argue are very enjoyable. Thank You.
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The iPhwn Blogger (iPB)